Tuesday, October 23, 2012

Taking What's Good

Oh, my heart broke a little bit today.

I was all sorts of wrapped up yesterday in my real world life and its little quirks.  I was dealing with a lot of anger at the NFOO working up inside of me to a nearly unbearable level.  So I stayed up late and I came here and I wrote it out.  I told the truth about what was happening and what I was feeling and I did it with no fear of judgment or reprisal because I don't have fear that any of you are going to stop me in the grocery store when I am unprepared to face the reality of the abuses that I've overcome and ask me about it.

Really, that's why I blog.  I need to say this stuff to people who can understand and empathize but who are not so close to my life that they're going to make the concert I'll be attending to hear my DD's sing about my survival of the NFOO when I need for it to be about listening to my daughters sing.  I tell it on a more personal level to the people in my chosen real world family and circle of friends, but there are some things that I need to talk about that I can't or don't have the opportunity to say face to face.

Does it help other people, my writing it out here?  I don't know.  I hope so, because I hope that my writing these experiences doesn't create indifference and I can't stomach the thought that my writing would hurt anyone looking for help .  If it does help, I'm glad.  If it doesn't, I'm sorry.  But really, I'm here for me.  I'm here because I have words to use and it's been a big lesson in my experience that Shrek was right; "Better out than in."

I operate - as I think all mothers and fathers and those responsible for children should - within a web of responsibilities.  My oldest DD came home today and told me about a discussion that her sociology class had concerning the role of mothers and how they came to the conclusion that mothers seem to always end up with at least two full time jobs; work at work and more work at home.  It was cute and funny that she and her classmates felt as if they'd discovered an absolute truth all on their own.  (Cause, yeah, I wasn't aware of that. LOL.)  So, I'm busy and I spend a relatively tiny fraction of my life online.  An hour a day, basically, tops.

I miss a lot.  And I totally missed all of the hash slinging, divisive shit going down on some of the blogs on my reading list and some of the other blogs I visit until just a few hours ago.
Can I just tell you that so much of what I saw, well, it just hurt my heart.  I've stayed as far out of the fight as I can, and here's why.  I have no quarrel with anyone looking to heal from abuse, unless they become an abuser themselves, which is in turn, proof that someone's not really looking to heal from abuse at this very moment.  We're all in different places in recovery and our own experiences before and during our journeys determine how we act, react, respond, behave and speak.  That's cool by me.  I believe that we all get to a jumping off point of healing by different paths, and it doesn't matter to me how we get there: it matters to me that we DO get there.  That's the place that I dig, that waking up to a healing path place and the paths that we choose after that moment.  That's what charges my batteries, the story of how we heal.

 As part of my path, this blog is the place that I come to work it out and speak unhindered, this is my spitballing arena, ladies and gentlemen, where I get to just... fucking... spit it out.  And then I see what I learn.

That's how I approach your blogs, too.  I observe, contribute if I think I can, and I gauge my reactions and responses and determine what I like about them, what I don't and then I come up with a plan as to how I'm going to move forward.  In my writing, in my recovery, in my life.  I come here to bounce myself off of your ideas and experience and to put mine out there if you'd like to do the same, and then I take it all down to my heart and I use all that power of introspection and character I've developed to work on me.  Or I don't, if I don't like what you have to say then I pass or I stop and I examine why it's making me uncomfortable and I determine if I need to change myself. If I start thinking that I need to change you, then I'm taking myself off of the path of recovery and healing and I stop.  Turn myself around.  Back to the beginning of the hokey pokey.

Cause I want to be better than I am, you know?
I've become a much, much better person than I was ever allowed by the evil people in my life to believe that I could be.  And I've done it by spending hours of my life looking into my own soul and deciding to shore up this support or patch up that crack in the interior drywall.  You've helped me to do that.  If I've helped you too, I'm honored that voicing my experience could do that for you.  If it hasn't and you've read my blog and said, "Meh, not for me," and moved on along, I'm cool with that, too.  I'm not perfect and I wouldn't want to be, nor do I think that such a thing even exists.  But I'm making progress, and that - for me - is the attainment of a goal.

I've made friends here, and I like that.  I've been a friend here and I like that too.  It's nice to talk to people who've had similar experiences and to hear their take.  I've even avoided a couple of mistakes regarding the N's in my life because I've listened to you talk about yours and I've been able to learn from you.  I believe that knowledge is ALWAYS a good thing.  Bottom line; if you've walked down any part of a path that's similar to mine and have something to say about it, I'll listen.

Whether you're in the middle, LC, NC, medium chill with the N in your life, I'll listen and hope to learn or to speak up and say, "Hey that happened to me, too, and here's what worked for me."  Whether you were abused by your N on an hourly or daily or monthly or semi-monthly or yearly basis and whether your N was a lone ranger or one of a Clan of Crazymakers, I'll listen.  Whether you're new here or you were the first blogger to arrive on the scene, I'll listen to what you have to say.

And I will take what's good and applicable in your story and try to learn from it, to take it to heart and to put it through my process and see if it applies to me still and maybe ask a question or two and then I will find a use for it in my life and pass it on to someone else when they maybe need it the most.  That's how we win against the army of the Narcs.  We learn how to heal and then we pass on our knowledge right down the chain of ACoNs and we build the numbers of people who were hurt by Narcs and no longer have to be.

Sometimes knowledge isn't just power, it's everything.  With knowledge, our minds, souls, hearts, brains and our voices all get stronger.  We get louder.  We tell the truth and we become steadfast in our resolve that we will continue to TELL and we will TELL over and over again and we will TELL louder and louder still the truth of what it was like, what happened, what it's like now and how we will NEVER let it happen again.  And maybe, hey, here's a thought, maybe you deserve to not let it happen either.  That's what's good here, to me.

Abraham Lincoln said (and forgive me if I get it slightly wrong because I am too damn worn out and tired to go looking for an attribution, so this is from memory,)
"America is great because she is good.  If she ceases to be good, she will also cease to be great."

I'm not talking about good in the sense of behavioral constructs and boundaries, I'm not talking about being good because we pick up our dirty laundry or abide by the rules of a family system or we always show up to appointments fifteen minutes early.

I'm talking about good in the sense of honor and justice and kindness and empathy.  Maybe a little sympathy, too, but also a call to action a la Alice Miller.  Good means, to me, putting the truth in the middle of the conversation and redirecting the conversation to it over and over again.  What's the truth of ACoNs?
Simple: we were all abused as children.
What's the solution to that?
Simple: people who abuse children should not be allowed to.

Because all of this pain we lay out, that's the result of parents (or caretakers) who hurt and of societies who allow those parents (or caretakers) to hurt.  The rest, I think, is semantics.

And that's what breaking my heart about the talk of different communities and different branches of cliques or governments in ACoN blogland.  We're all in the same boat.  Maybe we got here different ways and maybe some of us are booked into steerage and some of are working the dining room, but none of us are riding in style in the first class Penthouse, even if we did have to pay that passage.  Because the cruise line director probably put the sneaky damn Narcs in there.  They're the ones hanging out over at the dailystrength forums watching this shit go down.  (I wonder what they're doing with all that information?)

The only result that I have seen so far in this entire seemingly forever-long battle of the blogs is this;
your voices don't seem as true to me as they used to, it's harder to follow you on the path that you're on because I keep getting confused about what you're saying.  I'm hearing mean.  I'm hearing spite.  I'm hearing unbreakable vows and absolutes of correctness.  I'm hearing forced authoritarianism and retaliation.  I'm hearing moral superiority.  I'm hearing revisionism.  I'm hearing gaslighting.  I'm hearing "I know you are but what am I's" and "Nee ner nee ner nee ners."  I'm hearing justifications.  I'm hearing attacks.  I'm hearing accusations.  I'm hearing blindsiding and traps being set.  I'm hearing teams being picked by order of loyalty and conceived popularity for a game that, to my knowledge, isn't even scheduled to be played.

What I'm not hearing is a whole lot of people talking about the pain of being raised by Narcs and the freedom in learning about how to overcome that.

And that is breaking my fucking heart.

I'll end my post with the same word I've ended every post and comment that I've ever put out here with: love.  I do love you all.  I want you all to know that you're lovable, and I want to know that I am capable of love.  Love is the antithesis to the hell of my life that the Narcs created.  And the opposite of that hell, man, that's where I want to stay.

Love,
Vanci

PS - I didn't name names for lots of reasons, but this is the primary one:  It's been my experience that if I think someone is talking about or to me, it's likely that they are.  And it's been a huge part of my path of recovery to take that as a reason that I should look at my own actions.




42 comments:

  1. Being a fellow AAer, it's interesting hearing so much of what you've learned from that fellowship applied here.

    I've learned a lot from reading your blog. From my standpoint on the whole schism going on is that I felt like I was told to he quiet and I will not stand for that -- to me, this is a lesson of surviving my abusive childhood. It is, finally, not telling myself to suck it up when someone is being dismissive or judgmental of me.

    I do understand feeling sad about the whole thing, though, because I am too. But I also think that it isn't too far off from how the works works. Done people are sicker than others. Lots of people in AA spout the words, but never really heal. Done people take others down with them. Some people take what they can use out of any situation and get better on their own path.

    I'm sure there are dozens more permutations of any one person's reaction to any situation. For me, the problem comes when someone speaks as if their reality is the more correct and safer one than any one else's. But I also think each of us has an opportunity here. I'm exercising that, I suppose, for better or worse. I'm sure I'm being seen with a jaundiced eye by many, but I'll take that in my journey towards trusting myself.

    Sorry to blather on here. I think you wrote a great post, and it made me think in a good way.

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    1. vi,
      Thank you for the nice compliment. I like posts that make me think, too.
      I hope that my attempts to practice these principles are ... at least adequate. I'm sure that there are more reactions out there to all of the last few days than I'm aware of and I'm not of the opinion that mine is the only view, or, frankly, even really clear what my view is as it changes with each new 'twist' of the story unfolding. I'm quite certain that my view is not the rock solid right view that everyone else either agrees with or is wrong.

      I agree with you, that each of us - all of us have an opportunity here, and my sight of you is certainly no more or less jaundiced than it ever has been. That's a little joke, so ya know. :)

      BTW, I've tried several times to get myself invited to your blog. I suck at technology. My email is notmyrock@gmail.com. If you invite me, I will show up!

      Love,
      Vanci

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    2. I just sent you an invite. Hopefully you'll be able to get in now. :)

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    3. PS about your joke about jaundiced views of me, luckily I look good in most shades of yellow. Lol. Not when my liver is in distress, though. It'll be 7 years since I got sober as of today. :)

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    4. vi,
      I only know one way to say this:
      Happy muthafuckin' birthday!
      You're an inspiration and a joy to me. Although I am well supported in my AA groups, it's been truly enlightening for me to find other recovering/recovered alkies who are also ACoN's, and you (and mulderfan) touch my heart in a way that normal drinkers can't.
      Thank you for sharing your story and for staying sober one damn day at a time.
      Cheers! (she says as she raises her steaming mug of hot tea)

      Love,
      Vanci

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    5. Happy birthday, Vicarious! I'll be speaking at my new home group on Saturday night. Wish you guys could be there. We always end up with home baking and egg salad sandwiches...it's OUR 13th tradition!

      Watch yourself, Vanci! I was just a "normal" as the next drinker. Besides, "they" drove me to drink (after I gave them the keys).

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    6. mulderfan,
      Hey there! "normal drinkers" or Normies, is just the terms we use around here in my sobriety groups to refer to pepole who aren't alcoholics. :)

      Love,
      Vanci

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    7. I was just pulling your virtual leg!

      Most of us drunks had lots of excuses to prove we were "normal drinkers" until we walked into "the rooms" and found out how great it felt to be sober.

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    8. mulderfan,
      Ha ha, you're a funny lady. :)
      Yeah... normal drinkers... sure.
      "Hey Vanci, how much did you drink last night?"
      "Um... all of it, why?"
      I didn't ever drink like a 'lady.' Or a gentleman, either.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  2. Sorry about the typos. My new iPhone isn't cooperating with autospell and I've gotten complacent about not rechecking my comments. More the fool me, lol.

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  3. "What I'm not hearing is a whole lot of people talking about the pain of being raised by Narcs and the freedom in learning about how to overcome that." I like this post Vanci.
    What you just said in this quote was all I was trying to do when I prodded some folks to think also about the pain and horror that Charity was trying to climb out of when she hurt Upsi. My original comments when all this started were just about that, and nothing more. All this stuff about me being flung out there is so far from anything I am or why I write that it boggles my mind. I'm still climbing my way into full ownership of myself after a lifetime of Narc parents and enabling sisters. I'm trying to find ways to see what's good in someone who stumbled badly. That was my original crime, and I feel like I was burned in effigy for it. So that's that. Suddenly everything I ever wrote became revisionism, manipulation, etc. I'm only commenting here because I felt genuine sadness walking away from the people who have turned so mean-spirited. And I'm sure that last remark will be pilloried as condescending. And I don't need or want anyone to vote for me cause I aint running for "mayor" of anything. Just speaking my mind along with others, but not willing to take anymore of the shitstorm.

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    1. CS, I didn't agree with you on Charity but I thought, and still think, that you're opinion rflects your experience so it's OK by me.

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    2. CS,
      I'm all for differing points of view and discussion, and I believe that we all have a right to speak our minds and to stand up for ourselves. Part of my growth has been to learn how to do just that.

      I hope I won't offend you, though, when I point out that I wrote a very long post about how divisive I feel the argument that you've been involved in - regardless of your intentions, you have been involved in this 'fight' on many, many levels and I have watched them all happening - has been, and you've chosen to comment on that post by defending yourself and your actions AGAIN. If you feel that you have been fair, have not erred and have not participated in anything that you are regretful of, then hoorah for you. If you truly feel that you have been victimized and that you are in the right and clear, then I would encourage you to quit defending actions that you feel are right. Right actions don't need to be defended.

      I won't pillory you as condescending and you are welcome to comment here. I am sorry that you feel sad and I hope that it gets better for you.

      Love,
      Vanci

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    3. Growing up, I tried desperately to placate my lunatic NF and keep on the right side of everyone. As I started to break free from my NFOO, I was devastated and deeply hurt whenever anyone disagreed with me.

      CS, I simply disagreed with you because I saw myself in you. Typically, before an ACoN breaks free they try to "see the good" in their abusers and sadly, that keeps them going back for more.

      I agree with Vanci that there is no need for you to keep justifying yourself.

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  4. Thank you for this post, Vanci. I also feel sad and unwilling to pick a "side." I've also heard things that personally rubbed me the wrong way from some people on both "sides" at certain moments, which doesn't mean I have any intention of writing any of these people off. I do feel a need to be a bit more cautious.

    The one thing I'm even more sure of is that I need to keep writing my own story as authentically as possible - and part of it is analyzing how I'm reacting to all this and why.

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    1. PA,
      Thank you for reading and for your unique voice. I can't wait to read the rest of your story.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  5. I'm out of the loop. I've walked into, and tried to integrate with a group for guidance and to allow myself a 'secret diary' as such. I came upon it all through Upsi's blog. I loved it and the way she wrote, but also her ability to articulate her emotions and evaluate them.
    When all this began, I felt sorry for Charity. Not because of her problems though, because I have this thing where I forgive people even when they don't ask or want my forgiveness. I don't know why, it's annoying. And I'm not inferring anything there, just stating my 'hard-wired' reactions (well now I'm just guessing).
    I'm not taking sides, I never felt I needed to either.
    But I'm of the feeling now, that if someone where to comment on my blog in a hurtful manner it would only contribute to the feelings of 'get back in your box DM'.
    As an outsider looking in, I'm so very grateful to you, and the other bloggers who give me perspective and the experiences you/they have had. It spurs me forward on a road I want to be on. So thanks :)

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    1. DM,
      I'm so glad you're here. Walking my version of that road is the BEST thing that I have ever done. I hope it works out well for you.

      Love,
      Vanci

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    2. Your kind and empathetic replies always floor me. It definitely reinforces why I continue with this medium.

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  6. Thanks for this post - it was utterly refreshing! I'm still learning to trust my intuition (and I'm sometimes wrong), and I'm also learning to stay away from people who get "hurt", round up a posse, and oust people from a family or group. This happened regularly in my NFOO and I was an early target. I've read all of the posts recently and it's ben appalling - so much speculation about other people's motives, so much nasty "humor", so much slander. I'm considering if I have to go NC with some ACoN bloggers - how sad is that?

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    1. Toto,
      You are welcome for the post and thank you for reading it. I do not put any of the bloggers that I know in the same boat as my NFOO and I won't make comparisons between them as it's insulting toward those bloggers.
      I believe that all of the people involved in this kerfuffle are good people caught up in a bad situation and I'm hopeful that they'll all learn what they need to out of it, just as I hope I will learn what I need to.

      If you need to step away from certain people, then I think that it's good that you recognize that in yourself. I wish you and all of the rest of us, too! The best.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  7. Your posts and being yourself make a big difference for me. Thank you for writing your truth and your desire to heal. I appreciate a reminder of why we are here, to heal. Have a beautiful day and enjoy your DD concert.

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    1. Ruth,
      Thank you for reading and for putting your story out there, too. I have had a beautiful day and I'm loooking forward to listening to the DD's.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  8. I find your blog helpful. Like you, I hope my blogs are helpful...actually, I hope my writing is helpful, uplifting.

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    1. Judy,
      Thank you! I find your blogs helpful and inspiring as well.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  9. Just keep telling your truth, Vanci. That's ultimately what it's about, yk? The Blogs-and now, there are so many I can't keep up with them all-that speak to me come from the genuine heart and experience of another ACoN. No more, no less. Irreverant, (sp for me too!), profoundly touching, hillarious and painful-it's ALL there, the human experience in words that could only come from a real human being living a real life and trying to navigate despite a whole bunch of stuff secondary to the nature of our births to parents-who-weren't. In essence, the Blogger is acting (so to speak) from a paradoxical position of writing for themselves and SHARING that with the world: Most fundamentally, a self-LESS act, for me, the reader. I'm not the human being who put those keystrokes "out there" but another one DID so I can benefit if I chose to do so.
    I can't tell you how grateful I am to see the proliferation of new ACoN Bloggers. It does my old heart so much GOOD to know never again will some young-or old-person have to bumble around alone in the dark; hell, now I bumble around with a bunch of others in the light of the knowledge, experience, hope offered one journey, one human being at a time.
    Thank you Vanci. You-and so many others-have enriched my life in more ways than I can ever express.
    TW

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    1. TW,
      Yes ma'am, you bet I will keep telling my truth.
      I'm grateful for new bloggers, too, becuase it also gives me hope that more and more people have resources to get away from the Bad Uns.

      You've enriched my life as well.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  10. Testing!

    Posted a couple of comments earlier but they seem to have disappeared. Then I was told my Google account was compromised and I had a hell of a time regaining access.

    Coincidence?

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    1. Good grief, Mulderfan, that's awful! I hope it's just a silly glitch and not an actual hacking.

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    2. Mulderfan, I am in a meeting today and only have blackberry access so I can't check spam comments or anything else. Do you think there's something wrong on my end that I can fix? Your tech prowess far exceeds mine. Let me know if I can do anything.
      Love,
      Vanci

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  11. Vanci, I crashed on your blog then couldn't access any blogs even my own. Had to get Google to fix it and that took three tries. My computer prowess is really not that great!

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    1. mulderfan,
      I did have a comment that you made to CS in my Spam - it's now posted up above.

      Sorry 'bout that!
      Love,
      Vanci

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  12. Vanci and all the commenters & commenters with their own blogs; I'm new on this path and you all have been so very helpful to me. I'm still coming to terms with what happened, mourning what could have been, and defining my boundaries. As yet I'm not very coherent, and it's been so very helpful to read your words and see your strengths and realize that I'm not alone and others have come shining through with great grace and style, so I can, too. You're all awesome; thank you for writing!

    --LurkerLoo

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    1. LLoo,
      You are so not alone adn I'm glad you're here. Thank you for reading.

      Love,
      Vanci

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  13. I really liked your post and appreciate your perspective. I hope we can all learn something from it too. Hugs, upsi

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    1. upsi,
      Thank you for reading it and I'm glad you like it. I know that I am already learning a lot about myself, and I'm grateful for that.

      Love,
      Vanci

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    2. And a PS, upsi:
      I hope you had a really fantastic birthday!
      Love,
      Vanci

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  14. I'm trying again!

    I love your stuff, Vanci!

    I was reminded of a recent AA experience. Chatting after a meeting, one of the members started playing one-up with me about his drinking career. He started drinking heavily at age eight while I was in my sixties before I became a daily boozer. I responded, "It seems to me that it doesn't matter how we got here because we all ended up in the same place helping each other!"

    We ACoNs could play my dad's meaner than your dad, but no matter how we ended up on these blogs, we're all pretty much in the same boat. Telling our truth helps and, as a little bonus we may help others along the way.

    Keep knocking out these posts girl!

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    1. mulderfan,

      And you're succeeding! I'm glad you got that kink worked out; I hate tech problems like no other.

      I've run across that in AA too, and I've noticed that it seems to come from people who want recovery but don't want to do the work of the steps, both newcomers and long timers. It always makes me a little sad, because in my opinion anyone who's gotten low enough to walk through the doors is just plain low enough.

      I always counter those conversations with, "Yeah, well we all ended up in the gutter eventually anyway, didn't we?" Same basic sentiment, but I'm possibly a bit more on the negative side of that than you are! :)

      I'll keep writing, and just so know - I love your stuff too!

      Love,
      Vanci

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  15. Hi Vanci,

    I'm a little late in getting here but I wanted to say that your post is meaningful to me. It made me sad reading it because I felt that I had contributed to your feelings of sadness and unease. I have been and will continue to do some self-reflecting and I wanted you to know that the things you have said here and in past posts have helped me.

    Thank you,

    Jonsi

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    1. Hi Jonsi!
      You're not late, I'm not keeping a clock on this. :) I'm sorry if my sadness made you sad... I wasn't intending to push that on anybody so I hope you don't feel that way. Like I said above - to vi maybe? - I like posts that make me think (and are meaningful to me) and yours have always done that for me; I'm glad if mine can do that for you. That's my favorite thing about this blogland place!

      I think that the shining light for me at the 'end of the tunnel' so to speak is always when I can get to the point of assessing what 'this' - whatever 'this' is - has taught me about me. I can see that light, just maybe, getting a little closer in my heart.

      You're an honest chick and I dig that about you, baby!

      Love,
      Vanci

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